New Weapons - From Other People 5 (Fluffy @ SJGames Thread)

From the SJGames Forum Thread on New Weapons: Author - Fluffy

1. Anti Missile System- (AMS) to hit 4, 2d+2 damage, 3DP, 3 sp, 650lbs, $6500, 5 shots, $140, 20 lbs per shot. Loaded cost $7200, loaded weight 750 lbs. Loaded mag $750/115 pounds. Area effect. Must be linked to a ATAD or Computer Gunner and set for a certain speed, firing at anything at that speed or faster. May be fired manually, but to hit is 6. May use no special ammo.
   
   
2. Gauss Needler (GN)- To hit 6, 2d damage, 2DP, 1sp, 250lbs, $4000, 10 shots, $15/5lbs per shot, loaded cost $4150, loaded weight 300lbs. Does half damage to vehicles. Area effect. Drains 1 PU per shot.
   
   
3. Heavy Anti-Power Plant Rocket (HAPPR)- To hit 9, damage 1d-2, $1700, 2DP, 1sp, 100lbs, 1 shot. Functions identically to the APPR, but has 3 anti-power plant warheads that scatter after the explosive is detonated. Roll three times for damage, and roll 3 times for location if hitting a random area.
   
   
4. Heavy Double Barreled Vehicular Shotgun- To hit 6, Damage 3 hits, $2200, 2DP, 1Sp, 185lbs, 10 shots, $3/2lbs per shot, loaded cost $2230, loaded weight 205 lbs. May fire one or two shots at a time, to hit determined separately.
   
   
5. Heavy Vehicular Shotgun-(HVS) To hit 6, Damage 3 hits, $1600, 2DP, 1Sp, 155lbs, 10 shots, $3/2lbs per shot, loaded cost $1630, loaded weight 175lbs. May load any shotgun round.
   
   
6. Laser Point Defense System (LPDS)- To hit 6, damage 1d-2, $6000, 2DP, 1 sp, 225lbs., area effect, drains 2 power units per shot. May fire up to three times aimed, or may be set on rapid fire, firing in a 1” long cone, similar to a beehive tank gun round, hitting on a each target on a 4 or better, doing only 1 point of damage to each target hit. This use drains 3 power units. The LPDS may not be made pulse.
   
   
7. Light Vulcan Machine Gun (LVMG)- To hit 6, damage 1d+2, 2DP, 1½ sp, $1700, 240 lbs, 20 shots, $30/3lbs per shot. Loaded cost $2300, loaded weight 300lbs, loaded mag $650, 75lbs., area effect. May use anti-personel and tracer ammo.
   
   
8. Mini-Grenade launcher (MGL)- To hit 7, damage as per grenade, 1DP, 1sp, $700, 125lbs, 5 shots, Cost as per grenade, 4lbs, 145lbs loaded, max range 25". Loaded Magazines weigh 35lbs.
   
   
9. Micro-Laser (McL)-To hit 6, 2hits damage, 0DP (Destroyed on first hit), $1500, 65lbs, 1/3sp, area effect. Drains ½ power unit per shot. If made pulse, does 3 hits of damage.
   
   
10. Mini-Laser (MiL)- To hit 6, 1d-2 damage (always at least one point), 1DP, $2500, 90lbs, ½ sp, area effect. Drains ½ power unit per shot.
    
    
11. Point Defense System (PDS) To hit NA, Damage as per Discharger type, 1 DP, $800, 120 lbs, 1 sp, 10 shots, 5lbs/ CPS as per discharger type. The PDS essentially is a plate that folds back in the vehicle and may be loaded with packs similar to dischargers. It may be mounted like any other weapon and while loaded is dealt with as far as targeting like a discharger. May use any discharger type except PDG’s.
    
    
12. Railgun (RG)- To hit 7, 7d +3 damage, 5DP, 6sp, $55000, 800lbs, 10shots, 10 lbs/$200 per shot, loaded cost $57, 000. Loaded mag 115lbs/$2050. Drains 4 power units per shot.
    
    
13. Road Bombs (RBmb) To Hit NA, 3d damage (see below), 2DP, 1 sp, $450, 100lbs, 1 shot, Burst effect. Road bombs are very large mines. They use the same counter as mines, and are encountered and detonated in the same fashion, but when they are hit do 3d damage in a 1/2 inch radius, to exposed armor and tires in that area. They have a 1d standard burst radius to everything one inch beyond that. May use proximity fuses. Road Bombs when first dropped can be set with a delay up from 1 phase up to 5 turns. Hitting a road bomb before it is armed is the same as hitting a debris counter.
    
    
14. Ultra Rocket (UR)-To hit 9, 6d damage, 2DP, 1 sp, $7500, 125lbs, 1 shot weapon, burst effect. May use all standard rocket modifications. Burst effect. Military Item.
    
    
15. Vehicular Automatic Weapon (VAW)- To hit 7, 1d+1 damage, 1DP, ½ sp, $850, 65 lbs, 1.5lb/$7.5 per shot, 10 shots, loaded cost $925, loaded weight 80lbs. Loaded mag, $125/30lbs. ½ damage to vehicles, may use anti-personnel ammo. Area effect.
    
    
16. Vehicular Autoshotgun (VASG)- To hit 6, damage special, 2DP, 2sp, $1600, 140lbs, 6lbs/$30 per shot, 10 shots, loaded cost 200lbs, $2300. Loaded mag, $350, 75lbs. The VASG rolls to hit normally, but hits with d6 shots, each doing 2 hits. At ranges of greater than 10”, subtract 1 from the roll (but never less than one). Treat each shot separately for purposes of damage to armor, but as one big group for purposes of hazard. May use slugs, and slug rounds are not lost due to range. Firing the VASG for cycles, as well as side mounted VASG on trikes and Sub-compacts is a D1 hazard. Area effect.
    
    
17. Vehicular Double Barreled Shotgun (VDBSG)- To hit 6, 2 hits damage, 2DP, 1sp, $$1450, 140lbs, 1lb/5 per shot, 10 shots, loaded cost $1460, loaded weight 150lbs. Loaded mag, $100, 20lbs. May use Slug ammo. May fire one or two shots at a time, to hit determined separately.
    
    
18. Vehicular GyroSlugger (VeGS)- to hit 9, 2d damage, 2DP, 1sp, $3000, 125lbs, 1lb/$100 per shot, 5 shots, loaded cost $3500, loaded weight 130lbs. Loaded mag $550/30lbs. Max range 15”, 20” if using a long barrel, in addition to other benefits. May use any other standard gyroslugger round, CPS as per round, WPS 1.
    
    
19. Vehicular Sub Machine Gun (VSMG)- To hit 6, 1d damage, 1DP, 1/3 sp, $950, 45lbs, 1 lb/$5 per shot, 5 shots, loaded cost $975, loaded weight 50lbs. Loaded mag $100/25lbs, (special: Extra magazines hold 10shots, not 5.) Area effect, may use anti-personnel ammo. Suffers double normal range penalties, ½ damage to vehicular components.
    
    
20. Velocity Gun (VG)- To hit 8, damage 1d+3, 2DP, 1sp, 290lbs, $2900, 10 shots, CPS 10, WPS 1, loaded cost $3000, loaded cost 300, Loaded mag, $150, 25lbs. ½ damage to DP items and pedestrians. May use DPU ammo.
    
    
21. Single Shot Grenade Launcher (SSGL)- To hit7, Damage as per grenade, 1DP, $250, 45lbs, ½ sp, 1 shot, Cost as per grenade, 4lbs, loaded weight 49lbs, max range 25", may not use extra magazines.
    
    
22. Single Shot Gyroslugger (SSGS)- To hit 8, Damage as per gyroslugger round, 1DP, $1750, 30lbs, ½ sp, 1 shot, CPS as per gyroslugger round, WPS 1, Loaded weight 31lbs, max range 15”, may not use extra magazines.

Ammunition

1. Armor Piercing Explosive - CPSx3, WPSx2. Maybe used in any weapon that may use HD ammo. APEX ammo does one extra point of damage per 2d (round up) to plastic armor. While it does not do extra damage to metal armor, it does remove one point of metal on any 5 or 6 on the damage die. It doesn’t have an appreciable burst radius, but doesn’t cancel any area effect.
   
   
2. Antipersonnel Grenade Shells- For pedestrian GL’s, GL’s only (no AGLs). Both are giant shotgun shells, and each only has a maximum range of 10”.
   
   
3. Dual Purpose- Lowers to hit roll by 1, does 1d damage, ½ to vehicles and tires.
   
   
4. Flechette- Lowers to hit roll by 1, 1d+1 damage to pedestrians and tires only.
   
   
5. Hardball (tm) ammo- CPS x2For Shotguns, Dbbl Shotguns, and Vehicular shotguns. Fires three hard plastic balls. No damage to vehicular components or tires, and only does 1 point to pedestrians. Any pedestrian hit is affected as if by a concussion grenade.
   
   
6. Laserproof missiles- Adds 10% to cost and weight of any missile. Missiles so modified are not harmed by laser fire.
   
   
7. Lizard Spit (tm) ammo- For Shotguns, Dbbl Shotguns and Vehicular shotguns. Turns your shotgun into a mini-flamethrower. +1point damage, burn modifier 2/1, Cost x10. On a to hit roll of 2, roll 1 die: 1 no extra effect, 2-5 weapon is taken to 0DP or otherwise rendered unfunctional [sic], 6- ammo explosion. When used in hand weapons, does 1 point to vehicular components and tires. Volatile. Max range 7"
   
   
8. Military Grade Explosive Rockets - Weight x1.5, cost x125. Single shot rockets only. Military Grade Explosive Rockets do 3x the listed damage, and may be made laser guided or armor piercing as per normal. MGE Mini-Rockets do 2d+2 dice of damage. May not be used to modify SR’s or UR’s as they both already use MGE.
   
   
9. Slug Ammo - For shotguns, Dbbl Shotguns, and Vehicular Shotguns. Adds one to the ‘to hit’ number, +1 damage. Cost x5.

New Weapons - From Other People 4 (Uncle Edgar)

Uncle Edgar (note, link now seems to be down)

Heavy Gauss Gun (HGG) – To-hit 6, $15,000, 500 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, 5d6 damage, 10 shots, CPS 75, WPS 15. Loaded cost $15,750, Loaded weight 650 lbs., Magazine cost $800, Magazine weight 165 lbs. Area effect. Drains 3 power units per shot.

Gauss Cannon (GCn) – To-hit 7, $30,000, 800 lbs., 4 spaces, 4 DP, 6d6+12 damage, 10 shots, CPS 25, WPS 5. Loaded cost $30,250, Loaded weight 850 lbs., Magazine cost $300, Magazine weight 65 lbs. Drains 5 power units per shot. The GCn can only be mounted on oversized vehicles.

Light X-Ray Laser (LtXL) – To-hit 7, $10,000, 500 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 3d6 damage. Area effect. Drains 3 power units per shot. The LtXL can be pulse-modified but cannot use IR or BG optics. Like its larger cousins, LtXL is not compatible with the LGL.

Automatic-Fire Grenade Launcher -- To-hit 7, $5,000, 250 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, damage by grenade type, 30 AF grenades, CPS 20 plus grenade cost, WPS 5.

The AFGL may have different grenade types may be mixed in the magazine but the order of the rounds must be recorded. Rotary magazines can be installed for half cost ($250) and normal weight (10 lbs.) to the AFGL and its magazines. This revision of the AFGL description is meant to correct the errata and implicit rules regarding magazines in the AFGL descriptions given in ADQ 9/2, p.5 and UACFH, p.18.

New Weapons - From Other People 3b (MIB 1473)

From MIB 1473 (SJGames Forum)

LMG: 1d-1, to-hit 7, 20 shots, $?, 150lbs, 1 space
LVMG (proposed): 1d+1, to-hit 6, 20 shots, $X, 325lbs, 1 space
MG: 1d, to-hit 7, 20 shots, $1500, 200lbs, 1 space
VMG: 2d, to-hit 6, 20 shots, $2700, 450lbs, 2 spaces
HMG: 2d-2, to-hit 7, 20 shots, $?, 350lbs, 1 space
HVMG (proposed): 3d, to-hit 6, $X, 750lbs, 3 spaces
AC (proposed): 3d, to-hit 7, $X, 600lbs, 2 spaces
GC (proposed): 6d, to-hit 6, $X, 1100 lbs, 4 spaces
HAC (proposed): 4d, to-hit 7, $X, 800lbs, 3 spaces
HGC (proposed): 8d, to-hit 6, $X, 1400lbs, 5 spaces

New Weapons - From Other People 3a (DSumner)

From DSumner (SJGames Forum) - The [brackets] has the link to the original forum post:

Improved Vehicular Shotgun [DSumner]: Area Effect, To Hit 6, 2 hits damage, 2 DP, $750, 100lbs., 1 space, 25 shots, CPS 10, WPS 2, Loaded Cost $1,000, Loaded Weight 150 lbs, loaded extra magazine costs $300 and weighs 65.

Improved Tracer Ammo [DSumner]: CPS 2x normal cost, WPS normal. +2 to hit for second consecutive shot, +3 for third consecutive shot. Fire modifier 1; Burn modifier 1. (real life tracer ammo starts fires as it burns, I also don't see why it would do less damage than regular ammo).

Improved Light Machine Gun [DSumner]: $850, 100 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP. To Hit 7, 1d3 damage, 20 shots ($20 and 2.5 lbs. each). Loaded cost $1,250, loaded weight 150 lbs.; loaded magazine cost $450 and weighs 65 lbs. Area effect. Can use HD, tracer, anti-personnel and explosive ammo.

Improved Autocannon [DSumner]: $3,500, 500 lbs., 3 spaces, 4 DP. To Hit 6, 3d damage, 10 shots ($75 and 10 lbs. each). Loaded cost $4,250, loaded weight 600 lbs.; loaded magazine cost $800 and weighs 115 lbs. Area effect. Can use HD, Proximity, Incendiary, Tracer, Explosive (modern day AC use Tracer and Explosive rounds, so why not the CW version?), and Depleted Uranium ammo.

Improved Grenade Launcher [DSumner]: $1,000, 175 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP. To Hit 7, damage by grenade type, 20 shots CPS by grenade type, WPS 2.5; loaded weight 225 lbs.; loaded magazine weighs 65 lbs. Area effect. May use any type of grenade ammo. Ammo from vehicle mounted GL detonate on impact and do full damage to vehicles.

Light Grenade Launcher [DSumner]: $750, 150 lbs., 1 spaces, 2 DP. To Hit 7, damage by grenade type, 10 shots CPS by grenade type, WPS 2.5; loaded weight 175 lbs.; loaded magazine weighs 40 lbs. Area effect. May use any type of grenade ammo. Ammo from vehicle mounted GL detonate on impact and do full damage to vehicles.

Improved Autocannon 2.2 [DSumner]: $6,000, 550 lbs., 3 spaces, 4 DP. To Hit 6, 3d damage, 20 shots ($50 and 7.5 lbs. each). Loaded cost $7,000, loaded weight 700 lbs.; loaded magazine costs $1,050 and weighs 165 lbs. Burst effect. Can use HD, Proximity, Incendiary, Anti-Personnel, and Depleted Uranium ammo.

Update:

Caseless Ammo: 3x cost, ½ weight of normal ammo. Available for MG, VMG, and AC.

Magnetic Pulse Mines: Only available for Spear 1000 Mine Droppers. 1d-1 damage, CPS 150, WPS 10. If an electric power plant is damaged by this weapon (even a single point), the vehicle’s electrical system short-circuits and the power plant immediately looses all power and shuts down. It does not affect internal combustion (IC) engines or independently-powered devices, such as lasers with laser batteries. A short-circuited power plant can be recharged normally.

Smart Mines: 1.5 x the normal CPS, normal weight. Smart Mines are equipped with an IFF system that prevents them from being detonated by the vehicle that dropped them. They are also equipped with safety feature that prevents them from detonating, while the vehicle that dropped them is within the weapon's blast radius. For 2 x the normal cost they can be set to ignore multiple vehicles (i.e. ignore all "Team Foxfire" vehicles, ignore all motorcyles), or set to only detonate for certain types of vehicles.

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GRENADES

Mini-Grenades: $20, ½ grenade equivalent, 2 hits damage, ¼ blast radius. No damage to vehicles.

Monofilament Grenade - $35. Does 1d+2 damage to all pedestrians and exposed cyclists in a 2” burst radius. No damage to tires or vehicle components.

Flame Cloud Grenade - $75. Creates a 1” X 1/2” counter that acts like a standard Flame Cloud.

Sleep Gas Grenade - $100, Creates a colorless, odorless 1” X 1/2” cloud that lasts for 30 seconds. Unprotected pedestrians and cyclists must roll once per turn every turn they are in the cloud. Multiple rolls don’t produce cumulative results – Just apply the worst results rolled so far.

1-2 Character is unconscious for 10 minutes.
3-5 Character is unconscious for 5 minutes, and can do nothing for the next 3 minutes.
6 Character is -6 to hit with any weapon and can only crawl 3 spaces per turn.

PERSONAL WEAPONS

Pepper Spray - $35, 1/2 Grenade Equivalent, 5 to hit, $35, shots 5. Pepper Spray is only usable at point blank range.

1-3 Character is -2 to hit with any weapon for 1 minute.
4-5 Character is -6 to hit with any weapon and can make no HTH attacks for 1 minute.
6 Character -6 to hit with any weapon and can only crawl 3 spaces per turn for 30 seconds.

Auto Shotgun - 2 Grenade Equivalent, 3 hits damage, 6 to hit, $175, shots 10, CPS 5, Loaded Cost $225.

Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) - 4 GE (15 lbs.), 1d3 damage, 7 to hit, $500, shots 20, CPS 15, Loaded Cost $800. Extra magazines are 1 GE (3 lbs.) each. Full damage to vehicles.

Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG): 3 GE, 1d damage, 8 to hit, $750, shots 1, CPS 35, Loaded Cost $785. Extra RPG rounds are 1 GE each, and take 2 seconds to reload. A character reloading can take no other action.

MINES

Anti-Personnel Mines (APM): $35. 2d damage to all pedestrians and exposed cyclists in a 2” radius and 1d damage in a 1" radius. 1/2 damage to tires, 1 grenade equivalent.

Bounding Anti-Personnel Mines: $60. 1D6+3 to all pedestrians and exposed cyclists in a 2” burst radius. No damage to vehicles. 1 grenade equivalent. When triggered, Bounding AP Mines fire a small canister of steel ball-bearings into the air. The canister detonates spraying the surrounding area with its contents.

“Toe Popper” Anti-Personnel Mines: $20. 2 hits damage to pedestrians. 1/4" blast radius. ½ grenade equivalent. “Toe Popper” AP mines are small explosive charges designed to wound or maim their targets.

ACCESSORIES

Weapon Light: $50. Adds one grenade equivalent to any weapon it's attached to. Weapons Lights may be used at night, or in any un-lit area, to illuminate targets up to 4” away. When used, they eliminate all nighttime targeting modifiers. Weapon Lights may also be used to blind a target, following the same guidelines as vehicle searchlights. Weapon Lights may be attached to any pistol, rifle, shotgun, sub-machinegun, gyroslugger, or SAW.

Update:

MUNITIONS

Micro Rockets: To hit 9, ¼ space, 2 hits damage, CPS 35, WPS 10.

High Velocity Grenade Launcher Ammo: 1d+2 damage, CPS 35, WPS 5, 1" Burst Radius. Available for GL and AGL.

“Mag Shot” Hi-Density Gauss Ammo: CPS 2x normal, WPS1.5 x normal, +1 point damage per die damage.

SPECIALTY MUNITIONS

Laser Guided Bombs: $500 for electronics and laser tuning, plus $250 per guided bomb; no weight or space. LGL may be used with regular Bombs, Cluster Bombs, and Napalm. Laser Guided Bombs follow the same basic targeting rules as laser guided missiles.

DROPPED SOLIDS

Acid Mines (AM): CPS 75, WPS 5. Any vehicle detonating an Acid Mine will have its tires and underbody coated with a caustic brew of highly corrosive chemicals, which inflicts 2 hits damage to both the tires and underbody for 1d6 turns.

DROPPED GASES

Acid Cloud Ejector (ACE): 1 hit damage, $750, 50lbs, 1 DP, 2 spaces, 10 Shots, CPS 50, WPS 5, Loaded Cost $1,250 weight 100lbs. Magazine costs $550, weighs 65lbs. When fired an Acid Cloud Ejector creates what appears to be a normal 1" x ½" cloud of paint, that lasts for 3 turns. Any vehicle, or pedestrian, passing through the cloud is coated with a highly corrosive solvent, that will inflict 1 hit to every exposed vehicle component, and armor location, every turn they're in the cloud, and then for an additional 1d6 turns after passing through the cloud.

Special thanks to kjamma4, for letting me use the "ACE" name

DROPPED LIQUIDS

Corrosive Oil: CPS 5x normal, WPS normal. Any standard Oil Jet, Fluid Gun, or Oil Discharger can drop Corrosive Oil. Corrosive Oil can not be mixed with other oil ammunition in the same magazine. A loaded magazine costs $675, weighs 65lbs. Creates what appears to be a standard ½”x1” oil counter. Any vehicle tire coming in contact with any part of the counter suffers 1d-1 damage each turn it’s in contact with the counter.

DEFENSIVE

Laser Inhibiting Aerosol - CPS 2.5x normal, WPS 2x normal weight. Looks and works like a normal smoke screen, but blocks all laser fire. Available for SS, HDSS, and GS.

Laser Safe Windshield - $250. Protects the vehicle's occupants from the effects of Blinding Lasers.

Misc...

Thunderkit Power Plant: $4,000, Weight 275lbs, 3 Spaces, 7 DP, 1,500 Power Factors.

More:

Exothermic Foam: Fire modifier 2, burn duration 2. CPS 3 x normal. WPS normal. ExoFoam looks and acts just like regular Sticky Foam and can be loaded into any standard Sticky Foam Sprayer or Discharger. Any vehicle coming into contact with the counter will have its tires coated with a chemical gel that causes its tires to heat up, and spontaneously combust. Each full turn a vehicle spends in contact with a Exothermic Foam counter, or each additional 1” of Exothermic Foam crossed, adds an additional burn modifier of 1 to the vehicle’s tires. The chemical's effects begin to dissipate after 10 seconds, with the gel’s burn modifier dropping by “1” for every 3 seconds of time elapsed, after the initial 10 second "burn" until it becomes inert. Pedestrians coming into contact with the foam suffer 1 hit per turn they are in contact with a counter.

More:
Crystal Explosive Spikes: x5 normal cost, normal weight. Sighting rules as per Crystal Spikes. All other stats as per Explosive Spikes.

New Weapons - From Other People 2 (Oliver Bollmann)

From Oliver Bollmann. I marked entries with "@" if they are original game concepts. Oliver performed the logical progression for these existing weapons. As I've said before, some of these I'd like, others are gratuitous, but the best thing about Oliver's work is its consistency and thoroughness.

Machine Gun Family

@Light Machine Gun, LMG (7.62mm), Hit 7, Dam 1d-1, DP 2, U.Cost $850, U.Wt. 100, Sp. 1, Shots 25, CPS 20, WPS 2.5, Area

@Machine Gun, MG (12.7mm), Hit 7, Dam 1d, DP 3, UCost $1000, UWt. 150, Sp. 1, Shots 20, CPS 25, WPS 2.5, Area

@Heavy Machine Gun, HMG (15mm), Hit 7, Dam 1.5d, DP 3, UCost $1500, UWt. 225, Sp. 1, Shots 20, CPS 30, WPS 5, Area

@Vulcan Machine Gun, VMG (20mm), Hit 6, Dam 2d, DP 4, UCost $2000, UWt. 350, Sp. 2, Shots 20, CPS 35, WPS 5, Area

Bushmaster MG, BMG (25mm), Hit 6, Dam 2.5d, DP 4, UCost $2750, UWt. 425, Sp. 2, Shots 15, CPS 45, WPS 7.5, Area

Gatling Machine Gun, GMG, Hit 6, Dam 3d, DP 5, UCost $3750, UWt 500, Sp. 3, Shots 15, CPS 55, WPS 10, Area, No Turret Mount on non OS

Heavy Gatling MG, HGMG, Hit 6, Dam 3.5d, DP 5, UCost $5000, UWt 575, Sp. 3, Shots 15, CPS 65, WPS 12.5, Area, No Turret Mount on non OS

Heavy Vulcan Machine Gun, HVMG, Hit 6, Dam 4d, DP 5, UCost $7000, UWt 650, Sp. 3, Shots 10, CPS 75, WPS 15, Area, F/B Only on Non Oversized, w/ D1

Avenger Machine Gun, AMG (30mm), Hit 6, Dam 5d, DP 5, UCost $10000, UWt 750, Sp 5, Shots 10, CPS 100, WPS 20, Area, F/B Oversized Only w/ D2

@Autocannon, AC (30mm), Hit 6, Dam 3d, DP 4, UCost $6500, UWt 500, Sp 3, Shots 10, CPS 75, WPS 10, 2" Burst Effect

Heavy Autocannon, HAC (35mm), Hit 6, Dam 4d, DP 5, UCost $6750, UWt. 625, Sp. 4, Shots 10, CPS 125 WPS 12.5, Burst, F/B only on Non OS w/ D2, D1 Side OS

Very Heavy Autocannon, VHAC (40mm), Hit 6, Dam 5d, DP 5, UCost $7000, UWt. 750, Sp. 5, Shots 10 CPS 175, WPS 15, Burst, F/B Oversized only w/ D2

*½ D is a D3 – Roll 1d6 and divide by 2, rounding up.

Gauss Guns

Very Light Gauss Gun, VLGG, Hit 6, Dam 1d, DP 3, UCost $3000, UWt 75, Sp. 1, Shots 20, CPS 10 WPS 2.5, 1/8 PU per shot

Light Gauss Gun, LGG, Hit 6, Dam 2d, DP 3, UCost $6000, UWt 175, Sp. 1, Shots 15, CPS 15 WPS 5, ¼ PU per shot

@Gauss Gun, GG, Hit 6, Dam 3d, DP 3, UCost $10000, UWt 300, Sp. 2, Shots 10, CPS 25 WPS 10, ½ PU per shot

Heavy Gauss Gun, HGG, Hit 6, Dam 4d, DP 4, UCost $15000, UWt 450, Sp. 3, Shots 10, CPS 35 WPS 12.5, 1 PU per shot

Very Heavy Gauss Gun, VHGG, Hit 6, Dam 5d, DP 4, UCost $20000, UWt 625, Sp. 4, Shots 10, CPS 45 WPS 15, 2 PU per shot

Ultra Heavy Gauss Gun, UHGG, Hit 6, Dam 6d, DP 4, UCost $30000, UWt 825, Sp. 5, Shots 10, CPS 55 WPS 17.5, 3 PU per shot

Recoilless Rifles

Light Recoilless Rifle, LRR, Hit 7, Dam 1d, DP 3, Ucost $750, UWt 200, Sp. 1, Shots 10, CPS 35, WPS 5, Burst

@Recoilless Rifle, RR, Hit 7, Dam 2d, DP 4, Ucost $1500, UWt 300, Sp. 2, Shots 10, CPS 35, WPS 5, Burst

Light Blast Cannon, LBC, Hit 7, Dam 3d, DP 4, Ucost $3000, UWt 400, Sp. 3, Shots 10, CPS 65, WPS 10, Burst

@Blast Cannon, BC, Hit 7, Dam 4d, DP 5, Ucost $4500, UWt 500, Sp. 4, Shots 10, CPS $100, WPS 10, Burst

Heavy Blast Cannon, HBC, Hit 7, Dam 5d, DP 6, Ucost $6000, UWt 650, Sp. 5, Shots 10, CPS $125, WPS 12.5, Burst

Very Heavy Blast Cannon, VHBC, Hit 7, Dam 6d, DP 8, Ucost $7500, UWt 825, Sp. 7, Shots 10, CPS $125, WPS 12.5, Burst

Heavy Recoilless Rifle, HRR, Hit 7, Dam 7d, DP 9, Ucost $9000, UWt 1000, Sp. 8, Shots 10, CPS $150, WPS 15, Burst

Very Heavy Recoilless Rifle, VHRR, Hit 7, Dam 8d, DP 10, Ucost $11000, UWt 1200, Sp. 9, Shots 10, CPS $250, WPS 15, Burst

New Weapons - From Other People 1 (Nova)

Before I get down to messing around with the rules and creating new weapons - even after I've paid excessive due diligence with the whole series (1-2-3-4-5) - I should present the ideas that I've seen in other places. If they've done it, likely they did it better, and why reinvent the wheel (almost literally)?

Selected Items from NOVA:

Grenade Dropper: $750, 100 lbs., 2 DP, 1 space, 15 shots, cost by grenade type, 4 lbs. per grenade. Loaded cost is $750 plus cost of grenades, loaded weight 160 lbs. This weapons drops a grenade out the side or rear of the carrying vehicle. This weapon may use a rotary magazine, but the grenade timers must be preset.

Mini-Cannon: To-hit 7, 1D6 damage, 3 DP, $1,000, 170 lbs., 1 space, 10 shots ($20 and 3 lbs. each), loaded cost $1,200, loaded weight 200 lbs; loaded magazine costs $250 and loaded magazine weight 45 lbs. HEAT and HESH ammo available at the appropriate costs. 1" Burst Effect.

Heavy Rocket Launcher: To hit 8, $1,250, 300 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, 3d6 damage, 10 shots ($50 and 7.5 lbs. each). Loaded weapon costs $1,750 and weighs 375 lbs. Burst effect.

Ultra Rocket Launcher: To hit 8, $1,500, 400 lbs., 4 spaces, 3 DP, 4d6 damage, 10 shots ($100 and 20 lbs. each). Loaded weapon costs $2,250 and weighs 500 lbs. Burst effect.

Rocket Cannon: To hit 8, $3,000, 600 lbs., 6 spaces, 4 DP, 6d6 damage, 10 shots ($100 and 20 lbs. each). Loaded weapon costs $4,000 and weighs 800 lbs. Burst effect. The rocket cannon is a tank-sized rocket launcher and may only be mounted on oversized vehicles. Ammo may be modified at normal costs.

Heavy Anti-Tank Gun (HATG): To-hit 8, $3,500, 700 lbs., 4 spaces, 6 DP. 4d6 damage, 10 shots, CPS $100, WPS 15 lbs., loaded cost $4,500, loaded weight 850 lbs., burst effect. May use HEAT, HESH, APFSDS, DPU and Beehive ammo. This weapon is a larger, more powerful version of the standard AT gun. It is sometimes referred to as the "Hate Gun".

Heavy-Duty Gas Streamer: $300, 100 lbs., 2 spaces. 2 shots, 2 DP. This device produces a 10" x 2" counter of smoke (CPS $100, WPS $50), paint (CPS $100, WPS 20 lbs.), tear gas (CPS $200, WPS 50 lbs.) or toxin gas (CPS $20,000, WPS 50 lbs.).

Heavy-Duty Flame Cloud Gas Streamer: $500, 200 lbs, 3 spaces, 2 shots, 2 DP. CPS $600, WPS 50 lbs., loaded cost: $1,700, loaded weight: 300 lbs. This item produces a 10" long by 2" wide counter of gas.

Pyramid Spikes: CPS $50, WPS 10 lbs (Loaded magazine $550, 115 lbs). 1d6 to all tires. Cannot be made explosive, incendiary or expanded. Cannot be mixed with other rounds or be used in a spike gun. Pyramid spikes will damage plasticore and solids and are not destroyed when rolled over.

Light X-Ray Laser: $5,000, 300 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, to-hit 7, 2 dice damage.
Medium X-Ray Laser: $10,000, 525 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, to-hit 7, 3 dice damage.
Twin X-Ray Laser: $18,000, 1,125 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, to-hit 7, 4d+3 damage.

Light RR: $1,000; 150 lbs.; 1 sp.; 10 shots; CPS 20, WPS 2.5; Loaded cost: $1,200; loaded weight: 175 lbs.; To-Hit 7; Damage: ld6 (burst effect). May use HEAT and HESH ammo.

Light GG: $5,000; 150 lbs.: 1 sp.; 10 shots; CPS 25, WPS 5: loaded cost: $5,250; loaded weight: 200 lbs.; To-Hit 6; Damage: 1d6 (area effect).

Medium GG: $7,500; 225 lbs.; 2 sp.; 10 shots; CPS 35, WPS 7.5; Loaded cost: $7,850; loaded weight: 300 lbs.; To-Hit 6; Damage: 2d6 (area effect).

Medium Autocannon: To-hit: 6, $11,500, 600 lbs, 4 spaces, 5 DP, 10 shots, 4d6 damage, burst effect. CPS $150, WPS 15, loaded cost $13,000, loaded weight 750 lbs.

This weapon is a single-barrel autocannon of intermediate caliber (25-mm to 30-mm). 20th-century examples include the 25-mm Bushmaster gun on the Bradley IFV and the 30-mm chaingun on the AH-64 Apache. All types of ammunition are available. Non-oversized vehicles that fire this weapon take a D1 hazard from the recoil.

Super-Heavy Autocannon: To-hit: 6, $50,000, 2,000 lbs, 12 spaces, 20 DP, 20 shots, 15d6 damage, burst effect. CPS $300, WPS 40, loaded cost: $56,000, loaded weight: 2,800 lbs. May use HEAT, HESH, APFSDS & DPU ammunition.

The super-heavy autocannon is a modern example of the GAU-8 Avenger cannon which armed the A-10 Thunderbolt. The GAU-8 was a seven-barrel 30-mm gun. Alternately, the SHAC could be a single-barrel weapon of large caliber (50-mm or above).

Heavy Duty Junk Dropper: $100, 50 lbs, 2 spaces, 6 DP, 5 shots, CPS: 0, WPS: 40 lbs, loaded cost: $100, loaded weight: 250 lbs.

This item drops a 1/2" x 1/2" obstacle each time it is fired. Hitting the obstacle is a D3 hazard for all wheeled ground vehicles (including trucks). Additionally, 1d-3 points of damage are inflicted on each tire

Vehicular Shotgun (variant): To-hit: 7, $950, 90 lbs, 1 space, 2 DP, 1d damage, area effect, 10 shots, CPS: $5, WPS: 1 lb, Loaded Cost: $1,000, Loaded Weight: 100 lbs, maximum range: 24".
The VSG is a short-barreled, smoothbore weapon of either 4-gauge or 8-gauge. For every full 4" of range, there is a +1 to-hit bonus and a -1 to the damage rolled. Its low cost and light weight make the VSG a favorite weapon in the lower divisions.

New Weapon: Mini-MFRP

Of all the new weapons I've proposed see the whole series (1-2-3-4-5) the only one that I'm sure is good, necessary, and won't upset game balance, is the Mini Multiple Fire Rocket Pod (MMFRP). I'll use this as the first design challenge to work out game dynamics.

The real life model for this weapon is rather common system used on helicopters and attack planes. One example is here (where the first image is from). Many people assumed that the Micro-Missile Launcher is supposed to be this weapon, based on the picture (see to the right, taken from Uncle Al's 2035 guide) and it's misname.

The model for the new weapon is the "Six Shooter" - the Multiple Fire Rocket Pod. The original rules set for a Heavy Rocket and the MFRP was like 2 HR's, but different. And, when the MFRP was introduced, so too were mini-rockets, and the MFRP was kinda like 6 of those.

• HR = dam 3d, 2 DP, $200, 100 lbs, Sp. 1, 2" burst
  
• 2 HR = dam 3dx2, 4 DP, $450, 200, Sp. 2, 2" burst
  
• MFR = dam 1dx6, 3 DP (1/2 DP each), $450, 150 lbs, 2 Sp., 2" burst
  
• 1 MnR = dam 1d-1, 1 DP, $50, 20 lbs, Sp. 1/3, 1/2" burst
  
• 6 MnR = dam 6d-6, 6 DP, $350, 120 lbs, Sp. 2, 1/2" burst (price includes link)

For some reason, the MFR allows a greater blast radius, but it can't accept special munitions. The MnR is lighter than the MFR, but less damage. 2 (linked) HR is the same price as the MFR, but heavier, yet can be fitted with special munitions/warhead.

It's possible that just halving the MFR will get what we need: MMFR = to hit 9, dam 1dx3, 2 DP*, $225, 75 lbs, 1 space, 1" burst. (DP = 1st shot destroys 2 rockets, second shot the final rocket and the weapon housing). Compare to 3 Mini-Rockets: 3 MnR = dam 3d-3, 3 DP, $200, 60 lbs, Sp. 1, 1/2" burst (price includes link)

It's possible, and more in line with the real world munition, that the MMFR should be 6 mini-mini-rockets, 0.5 dam per rocket.

Also, I guess for game balance the special warheads were forbidden for the MFR, but there may be a way of re-introducing them. For now, this is the prototype:

Mini Multiple Fire Rocket Pod, MMFR, to hit 9, dam 1dx3, 2 DP*, $225, 75 lbs, 1 space, 1" burst. (DP = 1st shot destroys 2 rockets, second shot the final rocket and the weapon housing)

ADQ Online

Autoduel Quarterly was, for 10 years and 40 issues, the official magazine for Car Wars. Then Steve Jackson games folded it into Pyramid (which is still published), and Car Wars articles became quite scarce.

Somehow, depsite that they are sold in PDF form, Steve Jackson Games allowed the ADQs to be HTMLized and placed online. I mean, you can't buy the major rulebooks except for major dinero on ebay, yet the ADQs are free? I won't argue, I'm glad, and I want the good thing to last.

Available: 1(1); 2(2,3,4); 3(1,2,3); 4(1,3,4); 5(1,2,3,4); 6(1,4); 7(1,2,3,4); 8(1,2,3); 9(1,2,4); 10(2,3)

Missing: 1(2,3,4*); 2(1); 3(4); 4(2); 6(2,3); 8(4)*; 9(3); 10(1,4)

Other people have HTMLized 1(4) & 8(4). When I find more online, I'll post 'em in the links.

Image hotlinked from the ADQ page, cover chosen is of the first ADQ I purchased back in the day.

Weapon Balance Article

I should add that one of the best essays on Car Wars weapon balance is from Guy Fullerton, and found here. I hope he finishes it one of these days, it's good food for thought.

Standard Car - RPG Midsized (Non-Styx)

From MIB 1473 in the SJgames forum:

Most real-world cars would vary little from each other in the coarse resolution of Car Wars. For example, how many modern cars would look approximately like this:

Mid-Sized; Light chassis; Improved suspension; 150 cid Engine w/Overdrive; 12 gallon standard gas tank; 4 Standard tires. Driver; Gunner; 3xPassenger. HD Brakes. 6 pts. Metal (F: 1 R: 1 L: 1 B: 1 T: 1 U: 1). Cargo: 2 spaces, 300 lbs. Cost: $6,824, Wgt: 3,469, HC: 2, Top Speed: 82.5 (102.5), Accel: 10 (5).

Death Race 2008/3000 Trailer

Holy macaroni, how did I miss this? This movie looks like car-wars. If Steve Jackson games were in any way intelligent, they'd do a product tie-in and make a bundle.


UPDATE:

1. The movie webpage.
   
2. See this article for more details about the cars in the movie.
   
3. An attempt, by MIB 1473 on the SJGames Forum, to depict the main character (the car) in CW terms:

   Luxury; Extra Heavy chassis; Heavy suspension; 200 cid Engine w/Tubes, BP, VP Turbo, Super, Overdrive; 4 PR Steel Radial tires. Driver, Passenger. 2xAutoCannon w/10xStandard each linked F; Oil Jet w/25xOil B; Smokescreen w/10xSmoke B; Light Flamethrower w/10xStandard B. Tinted Windows; 3xLink (SS-OJ, SS-OJ-ACs, OJ-LFT); HD Shocks; HD Brakes; ABS; Spoiler; Airdam. 32 pts. Metal (F: 8 R: 8 L: 8 B: 8 T: 0 U: 0). Cost: $44,685, Wgt: 6,550, HC: 4 (5), Top Speed: 97.5 (117.5), Accel: 20 (15).

h/t owenmp at the forum.

Weapon Analysis - Part 5 (The New Weapons)

Part 3 of this series (see 1 & 2), came up with these new weapon possibilities:

1. Railgun (3 space Gauss Gun)
   
2. Light & Heavy Mortars (in new category that combines Grenade Launchers & Shotguns)
   
3. Light & Medium Howitzers (new category to re-house the ol' ATG)
   
4. AC moved to MG family, modify the HVMG
   
5. or AC in own family, move VMG into that, add new weapon: minigun, then change HMG into a 2 space weapon
   
6. Light and Heavy Recoilless Rifles
   
7. Heavy Rocket Launcher (3 space in guided-rocket category)
   
8. Mini Multiple Fire Rocket Pod (1 space unguided rocket)

Part 4 of this analysis described the different needs of game balance in general, without specific categories. Based on the earlier posts, and irrespective of the system analysis in part 3, here are the gaps in the offensive weapons:

1. No 6-accuracy burst weapons outside of Autocannon
   
2. related to that: only rockets are one space burst weapons
   
3. no 3 space, 7-accuracy weapon
   
4. no 3 space, 6-accuracy area effect weapon
   
5. very few options with 8-accuracy weapons

Based on comparing the two lists, do the new weapons help or hurt game balance?

1. Railgun - I admit that I've wanted this weapon in Car Wars ever since I played Quake3, and it would be the 3-space 6-accuracy area-effect weapon (if we keep the Autocannon as burst effect)
   
2. Mortars - Part of me wants mortars because doggonit, they exist! And they're useful as small "artillery" weapons. At least they should be available for pedestrians, no? But for cars, they would be a way of adding the small space, low accuracy weapons (with a number of special modifiers given the high-lobbing trajectory of mortar rounds balanced with the purposeful shrapnel damage, which I guess is in every 'burst effect' weapon. This is less than necessary, except as a non-rocket based 9-accuracy weapon.
   
3. Howitzers - This would expand the 8-accuracy field away from exclusively rockets. I think it's necessary.
   
4. Heavy Vulcan (Modified) - not really necessary, but I like to be thorough.
   
5. Minigun - Only necessary if we keep Autocannon in it's own category (i.e. gatling guns). I like it also as a 6-accuracy 1 -space weapon, but that will probably skew the game.
   
6. Heavy Machine Gun - I think that the Heavy MG is a rule flaw; 1 space 2 dice weapon?! And a Light Laser is only 1d? Anyway, I think it should be moved up to 2 spaces and rules modified accordingly.
   
7. Light & Heavy Recoilless Rifles - I think this is a more necessary fill, for 7-accuracy burst effects (the Blast Cannon should have made this inevitable)
   
8. Heavy Rocket Launcher - seems natural but may be unnecessary
   
9. Mini Multiple Fire Rocket Pod - I'm really surprised this hasn't been done yet.

Other Ideas I've toyed with some other ideas that just seem to be natural (as I see from others): heavier shotguns, grenade droppers, etc. but I will try to post the above ideas first.

Weapon Analysis - Part 4 (Game Balance Issues)

Part 3 of this series (see 1 & 2), came up with new weapon possibilities. But as I described in part 1, and part 4, all these nifty ideas are secondary to the necessities of game balance.

We should elaborate the game balance issue for things beyond straightforward cost/weight/space/damage (because it's not set out clearly in the rulebooks and lists). Here are the special issues:

1. Area vs. Burst effect
   
2. Volatility
   
3. Shot Number
   
4. Hazards
   
5. Benefits
   
6. DP (Damage Points)

Area vs. Burst

In the original game, area vs. burst was a nonsense/RPG issue. Unless you were aiming at pedestrians, who cares if the gun is area or burst? In the age of metal armor, it's a big difference (especially with HESH ammo): area weapons strip off metal armor on a 6 on a damage die, burst effect on a 5 or 6. So the fact that there's no 1 space, 7 accuracy, burst effect weapon has ramifications.

• Area
  • all Machine guns & ammo except explosive
    
  • FG, VS, GG, all Lasers, all Flamethrowers
• Burst
  • all the following (excepting the special ammo in "neither" below): RR, AC, bombs, BC, GL*, ATG, TG, all rockets, all missiles, all torpedos, depth charges, and mines (MD etc).
    
  • Possibly the Cloud Bomb (CBSS) - who knows
• Neither
  • Armor Piercing ammo for all rockets,
    
  • HEAT, HESH, APFSDS ammo

Incendiary and/or Volatile Weaponry

Which weapons are "volatile"? There's no list in UACFH, no index entry in the CWC2. The CWC2 (p31) states that your car will catch fire if hit by incendiary weapons - natch - but also if a some weapons are hit by enemy fire (2 in 6 chance), and 4 in 6 chance if those weapons are hit by other volatile weapon. And if a car is on fire, then certain weapons can explode the car. A keyword in making sense of this mess is that some weapons are "incendiary" and some are "volatile" and it's bad to mix the two. All incendiary seem to be also volatile, but not vice-versa.

Incendiary is easy to figure out (either the ammo is called 'incendiary' or there's the word "flame/fire" in the title), but which are the volatiles? Here's the list according to what I can piece together from the CWC2 & UACFH:

1. Incendiary (and thus Volatile)
   1. Any weapon with incendiary ammo
      
   2. any flamethrower
      
   3. Flaming Oil Jets (FOJ, HDFOJ
      
   4. Flame Cloud Ejectors (FCE, HDFCE, FCGS)
2. Volatile Without Being Incendiary
   1. Depth Charges (UACFH p.15)
      
   2. All missiles (SAM, AAM, RGM, WGM etc)
      
   3. All rockets (MML, RL, HR, MFR, VFRP etc)
      
   4. All torpedos (whatever)
      
   5. Anti-Tank Guns & Tank Guns
      
   6. Rocket boosters & jump jets
3. Not Volatile But Should Be - Prob. Because of a mistake
   1. Bombs (UACFH doesn't say anything, see p.10-11)
      
   2. Minedropper ammo (UACFH doesn't say anything, see p.15)
      
   3. Dischargers of incendiary material (Flaming Oil, Flaming Cloud)
4. Not Volatile But Should Be - For Game Balance
   1. Any burst effect weapon (e.g. AC, GL, RR, BC) - the reason why not could be the quantity of explosive in a RR round is less than in the ATG. But then the Blast Cannon should definitely be volatile!
      
   2. Hot Smoke (this is my pet-peeve, see my rant here)

Volatility is an issue for three things 1. Setting on fire, 2. getting on fire, and explosion.

Incendiary weapons can set a vehicle ablaze according to certain modifiers (see a chart somewhere), but non-incen. volatile weapons (e.g. ATG) won't do this. Volatile & incendiary weapons (and your power plant), if hit by enemy fire, can set your own car on fire on a 1 or 2 on a d6. If the volatile weapon is hit by an incendiary weapon OR a laser (which is itself not volatile) then your car will catch fire on a 1,2,3,or 4 on a d6.

If a car on fire has a volatile weapon then the car will explode on a 1 on a d6.

Shot Number

This mainly comes into contrast between the Machine Gun family and the rest. Also the Mine Flinger and other defensive weapons, e.g. the Oil Jet vs. Smokescreen (25 or 10). No real need for a chart here (even for my OCD).

Hazards

In this category are detriments from firing the weapon (this could include the danger of housing a volatile weapon, but that's in its own list):

1. the handling class hazard when firing the ATG,
   
2. the power-draining from Lasers and GGs,
   
3. Radar guided missiles need a certain distance to be active (and other mishugass)
   
4. Wire guided missiles can't be fired while moving
   
5. It used to be that Flamethrowers couldn't be fired forward, no longer.

Benefits

This category includes all the extra effects of the weapon beyond causing damage:

1. Flamethrowers and Lasers are automatically incendiary (no need for special ammunition).
   
2. Gauss Guns are silent (whoop-de-doo)
   
3. Flamethrowers & FOJ create a smokescreen
   
4. FCE & FOJ create a hot-smoke SS

DP

Sometimes it matters that your weapon is sturdy (RR, HMG) or not (RL, Laser). The drop spike plate is a classic example of as close to a possible DP-sink there is.

Conclusion

When seeking to add new weapons, game balance must be preserved in all categories - not only in spaces/weight/cost/damage but in the other factors like DP, volatility, area vs. burst effect, and miscellaneous benefits and hazards.

Weapon Analysis - Part 3 (Weapon Ideas)

In part 1 we looked at the basic game setup, part 2 analyzed the game's basic weapon systems, this post will see what can possibly be added and/or changed.

Two websites that have done a similar analysis, and given game proposals, are the friendly killers of NOVA and this article (PDF) by PDF Oliver Bollmann (main site here).

The three problems we came up with from the previous analysis were:

1. Consolidation of weapon categories (e.g. AC into MG)
   
2. Categories without full distribution (e.g. RR, ATG)
   
3. Possible missing weapon systems (e.g. mortars).

Problem #1 & 2 can be combined. The simple recommendations are these:

1. Autocannons be part of the Machine Gun family with the same stats. The 6-accuracy is like the vulcan and the fewer shots (10 from 20) is indicative of the higher rate of fire for the same caliber ammunition. The only change is that the AC should be area effect (like all weapons which depend on making holes in the target as opposed to applying concussive/blast force). This means modifying the HVMG into a legal item, like the "blast cannon".
   
2. "Anti-Tank Gun" is a misnomer; everything that can pierce tank armor is anti-tank (grenades, rockets, recoilless rifles). This is just a small artillery piece (as the classic "State of the Art" articles by Sheely & Olnes established). As such, I'd like name this category "howitzers" to distinguish it from the mortars (see below), recoilless rifles, and the bona-fide artillery pieces which aren't allowed in the AADA arena (and are called tank-guns). This category is ripe for scaling-expansion.
   
3. "Blast Cannon," like "anti-tank gun," a misnomer for a large-caliber recoilless rifle; this category also needs to be expanded
   
4. "Rocket launcher" - as I analyzed here, the Car Wars RL is in fact a rocket-propelled grenade. And, like the ATG & RR, should be scaled to allow greater "caliber"s (in this case, sizes of explosive). Thus "micro-missile launcher" is another misnomer. The basic difference between a missile and a rocket is guidance. As such, the current Car Wars systems of (guided) rocket (MML, RL), (unguided) rocket (HR, MFR), and missile (WGM, RGM, SAM etc), needs to be clarified. My best guess is that an 8-accuracy is a guided small explosive (real world RPG): the warhead is small and the weapon's space in the car is used for aiming and for velocity, 9-accuracy is for a generally unaimed large warhead rocket, and 6 or 7 (the Car Wars "missiles") are for a large warhead with a sophisticated aiming system.
   
5. Grenade Launcher - As I griped about here, this has a bad fit within the Car Wars system. I believe it should be collapsed into a large-bore, low velocity, category that includes the shotgun, flachette gun, and mortars.

With all that A new weapons chart could thus like this:

1. Flamethrowers (Unchanged)
   
2. Gauss Guns
   1. 1 Space = [not possible; the energy delivery system takes 2 spaces]
      
   2. 2 Space = Gauss Gun (6acc, 3d)
      
   3. 3 Space = Rail Gun (new)
3. Grenade Launchers
   1. 1 Space
      1. Vehicular Shotgun (6acc, 2 hits) - moved,
      2. Flachette Gun (6acc, 1d+1 to tires) - moved,
         
      3. Light Mortar (new)
   2. 2 Space
      1. Grenade Launcher (7acc, 1d*),
         
      2. Heavy Mortar (new)
   3. 3 Space = none [unnecessary because the next tech up is artillery/howitzers]
4. Howitzers (formerly 'Tank Guns')
   1. 1 Space = Light Howitzer (new)
   2. 2 Space = Howitzer (new)
   3. 3 Space = "Anti-Tank Gun" (Heavy Howitzer) (8acc, 3d)
5. Lasers (Unchanged)
6. Machine Guns
   1. 1 Space
      1. Light MG (7acc, 1d-1),
      2. MG (7acc, 1d),
      3. Heavy MG (7acc, 2d-2)
   2. 2 Space = Vulcan MG (6acc, 2d)
      
   3. 3 Space = Autocannon (6acc, 3d)
      
   4. 4 space = Heavy Vulcan (modified)
7. Missiles (Unchanged)
8. Recoilless Rifles
   1. 1 Space = Light RR (new)
      
   2. 2 Space = Recoilless Rifle (7acc, 2d)
      
   3. 3 Space = Heavy RR (new)
      
   4. 4 Space = Blast Cannon(7acc, 4d)
9. Rockets, Guided
   1. 1 Space = Micro Missile Launcher (8acc, 1d)
      
   2. 2 Space = Rocket Launcher (8acc, 2d)
      
   3. 3 Space = Heavy Rocket Launcher (new)
10. Rockets, Unguided [all 9acc]
    1. 1 Space
       1. Mini (1d-1),
       2. Light (1d),
       3. Medium (2d),
       4. Heavy (3d)
          
       5. Mini Rocket Pod (new)
    2. 2 Space = MFR (9acc, 6x1d)
       
    3. 3 Space = VFRP (9acc, 1-6d)

Another option is keep the Autocannon in it's own category, split off the Vulcan from the MG, and make a new 3 space scale: 1 space = Minigun, 2 space = Vulcan, 3 space = Autocannon. The machine gun scale would be Light & regular in one space, Heavy in 2, and larger than that impossible for regular cars (recoil etc).

Summary - Possible New Weapons:

1. Railgun (3 space Gauss Gun)
   
2. Light & Heavy Mortars (in new category that combines Grenade Launchers & Shotguns)
   
3. Light & Medium Howitzers (new category to re-house the ol' ATG)
   
4. AC moved to MG family, modify the HVMG
   
5. or AC in own family, move VMG into that, add new weapon: minigun, then change HMG into a 2 space weapon
   
6. Light and Heavy Recoilless Rifles
   
7. Heavy Rocket Launcher (3 space in guided-rocket category)
   
8. Mini Multiple Fire Rocket Pod (1 space unguided rocket)

Weapon Analysis - Part 2 (System Specifics)

As described in part 1, there are gaps in game-balance for weaponry, specifically in the lower accuracy weapons. As a way of correcting this, we can use the weapon systems as described in UACFH to flesh out the chart. What follows is a weapon system chart to see which components are missing. The chart will list illegal weapons only when necessary, and will be limited to 1-3 spaces as much as possible:

1. Autocannons
   1. 1 Space = none
      
   2. 2 Space = none
      
   3. 3 Space = Autocannon (6acc, 3d)
2. Flamethrowers
   1. 1 Space = Light Flamethrower (6acc, 1d-2)
      
   2. 2 Space = Flamethrower (6acc, 1d)
      
   3. 3 Space = Heavy Duty FT (6acc, 2d)
3. Gauss Guns
   1. 1 Space = none
      
   2. 2 Space = Gauss Gun (6acc, 3d)
      
   3. 3 Space = none
4. Grenade Launchers
   1. 1 Space = none
      
   2. 2 Space = Grenade Launcher (7acc, 1d*)
      
   3. 3 Space = none
5. Lasers
   1. 1 Space = Light Laser (6acc, 1d)
      
   2. 2 Space = Medium Laser (6acc, 2d), Laser (6acc, 3d)
      
   3. 3 Space = Heavy Laser (6acc, 4d) XRay Laser (7acc, 4d)
      
   4. 4 Space = none
      
   5. 5 Space = Heavy XRay Laser (7acc, 5d)
6. Machine Guns
   1. 1 Space = Light MG (7acc, 1d-1), MG (7acc, 1d), Heavy MG (7acc, 2d-2)
      
   2. 2 Space = Vulcan MG (6acc, 2d)
      
   3. 3 Space = Heavy VMG(6acc, 4d) (Illegal)
7. Missiles
   1. 1 Space = RGM (7acc, 3d), WGM (6acc, 3d)
      
   2. 2 Space = none
      
   3. 3 Space = none
8. Recoilless Rifles
   1. 1 Space = none
      
   2. 2 Space = Recoilless Rifle (7acc, 2d)
      
   3. 3 Space = none
      
   4. 4 Space = Blast Cannon(7acc, 4d)
9. Rockets, Guided
   1. 1 Space = Micro Missile Launcher (8acc, 1d)
      
   2. 2 Space = Rocket Launcher (8acc, 2d)
      
   3. 3 Space = none
10. Rockets, Unguided [all 9acc]
    1. 1 Space = Mini (1d-1), Light (1d), Medium (2d), Heavy (3d)
       
    2. 2 Space = MFR (9acc, 6x1d)
       
    3. 3 Space = VFRP (9acc, 1-6d)
11. Shotguns
    1. 1 Space = Vehicular Shotgun (6acc, 2 hits), Flachette Gun (6acc, 1d+1 to tires)
       
    2. 2 Space = none
       
    3. 3 Space = none
12. Tank Guns
    1. 1 Space = none
       
    2. 2 Space = none
       
    3. 3 Space = Anti-Tank Gun (8acc, 3d)

Many other game-wizards, like me, have tried filling in the gaps: here from NOVA (light Gauss Gun and light Recoilless Rifle), here's a very comprehensive list from Oliver Bollmann (PDF, main site here).

Combining my two lists together (i.e. here and this post), we can come to some conclusions:

1. Consolidation of weapon categories - for example, and Bollman recognizes this as well, the Autocannon is basically part of the Machine Gun family and should be placed there; the Flachette Gun could really just be a Vehicular Shotgun with Flachette loads, and to be honest both of them could be under Grenade Launchers (the same way that the M203 can fire grenades or shot); and the Missile-Rocket category is a huge mess.
   
2. Certain categories are populated/distributed well (MG, FT, Laser) and others not (RR, ATG) - despite the true availability of variation within present day weaponry. There's major differences between calibers in Recoilless and regular artillery and that makes a simple scaling system. The best example of how logical this is comes from GURPS Autoduel (see here for the Light RR).
   
3. There may be entire possible weapon systems missing (e.g. mortars).

We'll deal with the new possible weapons in the next post.

Weapon Analysis - Part 1 (Preliminaries)

My favorite weapon, and I'm sure almost everyone's, is the Vulcan. And it's not only in Car Wars; I love the real-life electric gatling gun family of weapons. When it was first introduced, it straddled a strange midrange in the weapon chart. The 7 weapons (to hit) were 1 space (MG) and 2 (RR), the 8 weapons were 2 space (RL) and 3 (ATG) and 6 were both 2 space (FT, Laser). Now a machine gun upgrade was introduced and it was 2 spaces but to hit 6. This made sense in terms of gun physics because, hey, many many barrels! But I would have preferred to have filled out the chart first.

Since then the chart has basically been finished, but there are still lacunae. The following is a list of weaponry based on to-hit. Only AADA allowed (and/or non-military) ground-vehicle offensive weaponry is listed. That is, only direct damage dealers (so mine-flingers, while as offensive a defense you can get, are still not part of the analysis)

TO HIT 6
1 space
..........Light Laser (1d area incendiary but not volatile)
..........Light Flamethrower (1d-1 area incen. & volatile)
..........Vehicular Shotgun (2 hits area)
..........Flachette Gun (whatever)
..........Wire Guided Missile (3d burst volatile)
2 space
..........Vulcan (2d area)
..........Flamethrower (1d area incen & volatile)
..........Laser (3d area incen not vol.)
..........Medium Laser (2d area incen not vol.)
..........Twin Laser (2d+6 area incen not vol.)
..........Gauss Gun (3d area)
3 space
..........Autocannon (3d burst)
..........Heavy Duty Flamethrower (2d area incen. & vol.)
..........Heavy Laser (4d area incen not vol.)
4 space = n/a

TO HIT 7
1 Space
..........Machine Gun (1d area)
..........Light MG (1d-2 area)
..........Heavy MG (2d-2 area)
..........Radar Guided Missile (3d burst volatile)
2 Space
..........Recoilless Rifle (2d burst)
..........Grenade Launcher (1d at best, blast)
3 Space
..........Xray Laser (4d area)
4 Space
..........Blast Cannon (4d burst)
5 space
..........Heavy X-Ray Laser (5d area)

TO HIT 8
1 Space
..........Micro Missile Launcher (1d burst volatile)
2 Space
..........Rocket Launcher (2d burst volatile)
3 Space
..........Anti-Tank Gun (3d burst volatile)

TO HIT 9
1 Space
..........Medium Rocket (2d burst volatile)
..........Heavy Rocket (3d burst volatile)
2 Space
..........Multiple Fire Rocket Pod (1d x 6 burst volatile)
3 Space
..........Variable Fire Rocket Pod (1d-6d burst volatile)

What's clear from the list is that most new weapons, with variety, comes from the 6-Accuracy list. As a game-balance purist, I am unhappy with the missing slots. 6-Accuracy is overstocked, 7 is missing a 3-space, 8 could use more options, 9 is fine (there are a lot of rocket options). Also there should be a balance given to shots available (10 or 20) and area vs. burst, volatility and other hazards (handling modifiers), and even weapon DP (see Drop Spike Plate). See this post for an elaboration of these issues.

Another possible imbalance is in weapon systems. According to UACFH, there are these systems (within the analysis parameters above):

1. Autocannons
   
2. Flamethrowers
   
3. Gauss Guns
   
4. Grenade Launchers
   
5. Lasers
   
6. Machine Guns
   
7. Miscellaneous (VSG, FG)
   
8. Missiles
   
9. Recoilless Rifles
   
10. Rockets (Guided, Unguided)
    
11. Tank Guns

Weapon systems may be seen as only an afterthought of game-balance, i.e. when putting the necessary space/weight/damage/cost chart together, the game designers decided to give the weapons some recognizable names - which helps gameplay and fires up player imagination. It may not be necessary to give space ranks to each of the weapon systems.

On the other hand, the official rules already have done the full complement for some of the systems (MG, FT, Laser, Rocket), so there's a logic to finishing the chart. If so, and while resistant, I'm not totally against it, but I'd do so at first only to fill out the first chart.

With the weapon-system analysis - which relies more on real-world technological connection than the Accuracy system (see more on that analysis here) - we can arbitrarily say that certain weapons start at more than 1 space: Tank Gun, Autocannons, etc. However, if the gun is designed right, then why not?

Hardhead 2057 - Div20 Subcompact

Subcompact (C/A frame), Xhvy Ch., Hvy Sus., Small PP (PC/SC), 4 HD tires, driver, 2 linked LL (pulse) in EWPs pointing front, 10 pts EWP armor, 10 pts FP CA each around driver & PP, HRSWC, 114 pts plastic armor (F25 B25 R20 L20 T12 U12), Acc 5, Top 90, HC 4, 2760 lbs., $19,954

• Option 1 (Div15) - Replace LLs with MMLs (10/AP each), add 30 pts armor, $13,434
• Option 2 (Div15) - Replace LLs with MMLs (10/AP each) and replace internal CA with 2 more MML (10/AP) front, all 4 weapons linked; $14,704
• Option 3 (Div25) - Like #2 but add TL linked to all 40 rocket rounds, remove 10 pts armor from EWP and 2 pts vehicular armor; $24,282

Design Notes - An update of this 2037 design. The original design had a huge engine, a EWP on the roof (facing front) and was armed with a light laser. Since then the rules disallowed even EWPs on roof for subs. I decided to incorporate the EWP + LL - using the space inside for componant armor.

I also found the best aspect of the weapon that I have hitherto eulogized as rule-jockeyed out of relevance: pulsing a LL adds no weight.

The MML options are just to see how much damage a subcompact can veritably dish out.

Admin: Substitute Counters

The obsessive compulsive in me felt that every car in this virtual showroom should have an accompanying photo, but the realist in me recognized that (a) it would take way too long to draw a counter for all the 2037 and/or obsolete cars, and (b) most of the old cars suck and would never be used. Hence I came up with the logo use see to your left.

Rant: Uncle Al's Hell

As I mentioned here, the pictures in Uncle Al's Catalog O'Hell are amateurish to the point of folly. Whatever happened to the awesome graphics of the original (2035) catalog? Instead of nifty realistic munitions, we get this:

I challenge anybody who hasn't seen the picture recently to tell me what the heck that is supposed to be. A watergun? An elephant's trunk?

Corwin - Div20 Luxury

Luxury, Xhvy Ch., Hvy Sus., Super PP, 4 PR-Steel Tires, driver & gunner, VMG (20/incen) in turret, VMG (20/incen) front, SD (10/incen) back, smartlink for VMGs; FE, 10 pts CA each around driver, PP & front VMG, 8 dischargers (2 Hot Smoke top, 2 Smoke bottom, 6 oil/smoke around sides); 153 pts plastic armor F30 B30 R30 L30 T18 U15; HC 3, Acc 5, Top 100, 6595 lbs, $19,990

• Solid Option - 4 regular Solid tires, regular ammo in the VMGs, only 6 dischargers (1 hot smoke the rest oil/smoke), add 1 pt armor; $19,995


• Div30 Option - Like original but Sport PP, 4 Solid-Radial tires, add 2 links (SD to each VMG separately), 4 bumper triggers (to dischargers), HTM, HD-ABS, add 10 pts CA around gunner and all CA is now FP, add 2 pts armor (155 total), and crew now each have BA; Acc 5 (10), Top 110 (82.5), HC 4, 6595 lbs, $29,930


• Whole Hog Option - like Div30 but engine has PC/SC, FP armor & tires, add 2 HR computers, HTM is now HDHTM, add overdrive; body armor is now blended IBA, Acc. 10 (20/5), Top 122.5 (90/142.5), HC 4, $56,530

Design Notes - I had an image of this weapon system in my head this morning, with the subconscious note that it should be div20, and I whipped it together. I'm not so happy with the way it's turned out (to save money I didn't make the CA fireproof and I did steel-belted radials instead of solids), but I wanted to see how it would turn out.

I've decided to design the cars with 8 total dischargers: 2 each Right, Left, and Top & Bottom, then 1 front & back. The top & bottom are going to be hot smoke (when I can afford it) or just smoke; this is laser insurance (hot for IRs).

Name is from the hero of the first series of Roger Zelazny's Amber series. And not after this person whose parents had better be in on the joke.

Replica: Police Interceptor 2057 (Compact)

Compact, Xhy Ch., Hvy-Active Sus., Sport PP (PC/SC), 4 Solid-FP-Radial Tires, Driver (in Blended Body Armor (Police Uniform)); Ramplate, FPRP Spoiler & Airdam, safety seat, HD & Anti-Lock Brakes, HD Shocks, No Paint/Tinted Windshield, HDHTM & Overdrive, Surge protector, vehicular computer, voice-control software, radar, radar detector, radar jammer, LDR, 10 pts. RFPF Component Armor around Driver. 175 pts. FPRP Plastic armor: F50(ram) R30 L30 B30 T15 U20. Acc. 10 (20 HDHTM/5 Overdrive), Top speed: 155 (102.5 HDHTM, 175 overdrive), HC 5 (6 over 60). 4440 lbs., $58,400

Low Power Option - Compact (Streamlined), Xhy Ch., Hvy-Active Sus., Large PP (PC/SC), 4 Solid-FP-Radial Tires, Driver (in Blended Body Armor (Police Uniform)); Ramplate, active suspension, FPRP Spoiler & Airdam, safety seat, HD & Anti-Lock Brakes, HD Shocks, No Paint/Tinted Windshield, HDHTM & Overdrive, Surge protector, vehicular computer, voice-control software, radar, radar detector, radar jammer, LDR, 9 pts. LRFP Component Armor around Driver. 189 pts. Sloped RPFP Plastic armor: F60 (ram) B31 R32 L32 T14 U20. Acc. 10 (20 HDHTM/5 Overdrive), Top speed: 132.5 (87.5 HDHTM, 152.5 overdrive), HC 5 (6 over 60). 4439 lbs., $59,808.80

2063 Low Power Option 2 - Compact, Xhy Ch., Heavy Sus., Large PP (PC/SC, 2300 pwr), 4 Solid-FP-Radial Tires, Driver (in Blended Body Armor (Police Uniform)); Ramplate, Roll-Cage, Active suspension, FPRP Spoiler & Airdam, safety seat, HD & Anti-Lock Brakes, HD Shocks, No Paint/Tinted Windshield, HDHTM & Overdrive, Surge protector, vehicular computer, voice-control software, radar, radar detector, radar jammer, LDR, 10 pts. FPRP Component Armor around Driver. 164 pts. Sloped RPFP Plastic armor: F50 (ram) R30 L30 B30 T9 U15. HC 5 (6 over 60), Acc. 10 (20 HDHTM/5 Overdrive), Top speed: 120 (80 HDHTM, 140 overdrive), Cruising 72, 4438.6 lbs., (4440 max), $58,045.80

Design Notes - After reading my design for the Police Interceptor after all these months, I realized that it may work as a compact more than a Mid-sized. Specifcally, I wanted more armor. Turns out that the compact isn't better (I had to remove a lot from the original design). But I felt the advantage a compact had was in possible speed - a suped-up sport engine gives massive acceleration and top speed, mainly to allow HDHTM = 20 acceleration with top speed of 102.5, a.k.a. 5 seconds from ignition to top speed. Heh.

Dec 7, 2013 Update - the Option was added; it was in my draft pile dated July 31, 2008.  Then I updated it further to get a roll-cage in exchange for streamlining.

Embiggen 2057 - Div10 Compact (Updated)

Compact, Hvy Ch., Hvy Sus., Medium PP, 4 PR Tires, Driver, VMG (20/Incen.) front, mini-Rocket platform with 3 linked incendiary Mini-Rockets, FE, Targ. Comp., 10 pts FP-CA around driver, 155 pts Plastic Armor F30 B30 R30 L30 T20 U15, Acc 5, Top 90, HC 3, 4060 lbs, $9,990

• Option 1 - Xhvy Ch., add PC/SC to engine, no FE, SWC instead of Targ., add 10 pts CA around PP (but all CA no longer FP), armor now 36 pts Metal & 50 inner plastic (F 10/9 B 10/9 R 10/0 L 7/8 R 7/8 T 1/8 U 1/8). Acc 5, Top 95, HC 3, 4440 lbs, $9,995

Design Notes - The original design was made obsolete by a rules change (at one point compacts could have 2 space turrets/rocket platforms). It had a forward VMG and an MFR with a targeting laser. To remake it with a 1 space platform made very little sense (1 HR with laser sight when you already have a VMG?). So to remake it, instead of Div15, I went lower, and did whatever would be effective with a 1 space platform = 3 incendiary rockets (where the key is to put burn mods over damage).

Original: Compact, Xhvy Ch., Hvy. Sus., Large PP, driver, 4 PR tires, VMG front, 2 sp. rocket platform with TL & LGL to MFR, targ. comp., FE; 165 Armor: F40 R30 L30 B30 T15 U20, Acc. 5, HC 3, 4440 lbs., $13,595

Div10 Discussion

The gladiator series is going well, but when looking to see what to make the official Div10 version, I saw that I have a number of very strong Div10 designs already on the books. I'm wondering whether I should make a new one or just choose one of the existing:

1. Venus - compact with turreted HMG & 186 pts armor
   
2. Nasty - Compact with front ATG (APFSDS) & 207 pts armor
   
3. Chewer - front VMG with ramplate & 147 pts armor.

Or make a new one. If anyone has an opinion, comment away.

Zardoz - Div10 Midsized

Mid-sized, Xhy Ch., Hvy Sus., Large PP, 4 HD tires, driver; RR (10/reg) front, OJ (25/reg) back; 10 pts. CA each around driver & PP; 53 pts Metal & 33 pts plastic inner armor (F 15/2 B 12/2 R 13/2 L 13/2 T 10/0 U 15/0); Acc. 5, Top 90, HC 3, 5759 lbs $9848

Design Notes - This came as a design experiment after messing around on Gladiator15. It's not good enough IMO to be the Gladiator 10 (for that I'll go to a compact).

Name comes from this freaky, freaky movie; pic originally from www.TheToyRoom-Redux.com, which I have mildly modified.

Gladiator15 - Div15 Midsized

Mid-sized, Xhvy Ch., Hvy Sus., Large PP, 4 Solid Tires, Driver; VMG (20/reg) in turret, SS (10/reg) & SD (10/reg) back corners, linked; 10 pts. CA each around driver & PP, 228 pts Plastic Armor (F45 B45 R48 L48 T25 U17) Acc 5, Top 92.5, HC 3, 5714 lbs, $14,998

Metal Option - add incendiary ammo in VMG, explosive spikes in SD, hot smoke for SS, FP the CA, add 6 oil dischargers linked to 4 bumper triggers; Armor is now 40 pieces metal & 30 inner plastic (F,B,R,L: 10/0, T,U: 0/15), Top 90, 5760 lbs, $14,980.

Design Notes - It's 46 lbs light than maximum weight in order to get it under 15K. I hate wasting weight, but there's very little that costs little and weighs a lot with no space (except metal armor but you need more than a few pieces to be useful, but that led to the Option experiment.)

Gladiator 25 - Div25 Luxury

Luxury, X-Hvy Ch., Hvy Sus., Large PP (PC/SC), 4 Solid-Radial Tires, Driver & Gunner (each in BA); ATG (10/APFSDS) front, OG (10/reg) back, SD (10/explosive) back, HRSWC (gunner to ATG), SWC (driver ATG); 6 oil/smoke dischargers linked to 4 bumper triggers; 2x9 pts WG on rear wheels; 10 pts FP CA each around (a) driver, (b) PP and (c) ATG; 177 pts plastic armor F 35 B 34 R 40 L 40 T 13 U 15; HC 4, Acc 5, Top 92.5; 6597 lbs, $24,870

Design Notes - The Division 25 version of these two.

Gladiator20 - Div20 Luxury

Luxury, X-Hvy Ch., Hvy Sus., Super PP, 4 PR-Radial Tires, Driver & Gunner; ATG (10/APFSDS) front, OG (10/reg) back, SD (10/explosive) back, 6 oil/smoke dischargers linked to 4 bumper triggers; Targ. Comp. (gunner), SWC (driver ATG); 10 pts FP-CA each around driver & PP; crew each have BA; 182 pts plastic armor (F40 B34 R40 L40 T13 U15); Acc 5, Top 100; HC 4, 6595 lbs, $19,950

Design Notes - Like the others of this name (see the first here) the Gladiator class is designed to be a test opponent of a designed car in the cost class. Gladiators aren't the perfect design, they're just meant to be very tough.

Gladiator30 - Div30 Luxury

Luxury, X-Hvy Ch., Hvy-Active Sus., Super PP (PC), 4 Solid-Radial Tires, Driver & Gunner; ATG (10/APFSDS) front, OG (10/reg) back, 6 oil/smoke dischargers linked to 4 bumper triggers; HTM; HD-ABS, HRSWC (gunner ATG), SWC (driver ATG); 10 pts FP-CA each around driver, PP, ATG; crew each have BA; 162 pts plastic armor (F30 B30 R38 L38 T11 U15); Acc 5 (10), Top 105 (77.5); HC 5, 6600 lbs, $29,790

Option 1 - Replace ATG with BC (10/reg); remove: CA for front weapon, HRSWC and HTM; 183 pts armor (F40 B36 R40 L40 T12 U15); 6600 lbs, $29510

Option 2 - Like #1 but HESH ammo for BC, remove Platinum Catalysts from engine; Top speed 100, $29410

Design Notes - I put this together swiftly as a 'test car' - i.e. to test other designs in the price range. If another Div30 design can hold its own against the gladiator, then it may have a chance in the ring.

Janus - Div30 Van (Galaxy)

Van, Xhvy Ch., Hvy. Sus., Sport PP, driver & gunner, 6 PR-Radial tires, 3 MML (10/AP) in turret, OG (10/reg) front, 2 PGS and 2 Hot Smoke GSS (1 BL 1 BR 2 Back), DSP under, 7 oil/smoke dischargers (linked to 4 bumper triggers); HD brakes, 2 targeting computers,; 10 pts FP-CA each around driver, PP, and OG; Driver has BA & FP suit, both crew have PFE. 133 pts. plastic Armor: F(21) B(21) R(30) L(30) T(20) U(11); Acc. 5, Top 105, HC 3, 7195, $29,890

Design Notes - This came about from the updating of Tethys (the name is another moon of Saturn). This has a much better balance of weaponry than the original; still - as a van - the armor is light (not counting the 30 pts Comp Armor + DSP).